Posts by cha ching

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EMOTIONS can tear you apart....but, not if you IDENTIFY their SOURCE

by Terry in

many people don't know why they "feel" what they feel.

they fall in love with the wrong person.

they cry unexpectedly.

cha ching

Just an interesting observation of info I have come across lately:

Lately, I've read about a young happy woman that went to a Yoga class, and became involved in a cult. She could not believe it. What did the cult leader use? Emotions.

One book about cults describes how cult lealders manipulate emotions, and make their followers slaves to them. (Sorry I don't have the names of books or links... just too tired tonight)

It all starts out happy "release bad feellings" "shout happy ones" and then the next thing you know, little by little, you are part of a cult.

They know what they are doing, the pattern works.

(PS, I like emotions... they all have their place)

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How can a "God, who Cannot Lie" (Titus 1:2) justify DESTRUCTION?

by fedup in

i was raised as a jw, most of my family is still in, i regular pioneered for 5 years, elder for even longer.

preached for over 40 years that the 1914 generation will see the end, etc, etc... believed every single word, and preached it with total conviction.. i have not been active for approx 7 years, completely faded now, mainly because i couldn't believe a loving god would destroy me, after coming to terms with and admiting i was preaching a lie.. i'm extremely happy i'm out, although still hitched to it somehow by my past, i guess like many of us on here.. i do have a question for all jws.. how can "god, who cannot lie" a god which is love, justify destroying the world, including all of us that left, and saving only the jws, when for decades one of the main teachings of the jws has proved to be a lie?

a teaching no one wants to discuss anymore, which got covered up by a new light, which most can't even explain.

cha ching

Me personally?

Well, when trying to counter my sister’s arguments that:

Jehovah has “always had a visible organization on earth,” and basically, “even if they are wrong” (like Manassah and killing kids… I said I wouldn’t do what he said if it was wrong) my bottom line was:

“I don’t believe God would kill me for believing the truth”

The truth is, that the 1914 generation is a lie.

“So, if I don’t believe in 1914, I’ll die?”

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How can a "God, who Cannot Lie" (Titus 1:2) justify DESTRUCTION?

by fedup in

i was raised as a jw, most of my family is still in, i regular pioneered for 5 years, elder for even longer.

preached for over 40 years that the 1914 generation will see the end, etc, etc... believed every single word, and preached it with total conviction.. i have not been active for approx 7 years, completely faded now, mainly because i couldn't believe a loving god would destroy me, after coming to terms with and admiting i was preaching a lie.. i'm extremely happy i'm out, although still hitched to it somehow by my past, i guess like many of us on here.. i do have a question for all jws.. how can "god, who cannot lie" a god which is love, justify destroying the world, including all of us that left, and saving only the jws, when for decades one of the main teachings of the jws has proved to be a lie?

a teaching no one wants to discuss anymore, which got covered up by a new light, which most can't even explain.

cha ching

My friend had the same experience with the 1914 generation teaching.

My friend believes one of God’s qualities is justice, therefore, sometime in the future, God will have to convince EVERY one that he exists and that all mankind will benefit from his guidance.

After reading many posters on this site, he knows it will take divine action to counter their well researched arguments .

My friend agrees that the organization of JW’s have lost their credibility. A God of justice would never execute 7 billion people because they chose not to follow the “organization” of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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WHAT IF the Watchtower Society were a MAP company instead?

by Terry in

the world's most accurate map maker advertises:.

"ours are the best and most accurate maps in the entire world!.

how can we make such an absolute claim?.

cha ching

Now THAT I could use!!!

hilaaaaaaarrrrriiiiooouuusss

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WHAT IF the Watchtower Society were a MAP company instead?

by Terry in

the world's most accurate map maker advertises:.

"ours are the best and most accurate maps in the entire world!.

how can we make such an absolute claim?.

cha ching

haha...

Terry: my husband liked that reply to the reply....

I jus haaaate that "s" word....... I have a much toooo imaginative brain! Yuck!

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WHAT IF the Watchtower Society were a MAP company instead?

by Terry in

the world's most accurate map maker advertises:.

"ours are the best and most accurate maps in the entire world!.

how can we make such an absolute claim?.

cha ching

You have hit the nail on the head!!!!

Much to the WT’s chagrin, we have a great ability to use illustrations!

I LOVE IT!!!

I will use this illustration to combat all of the controlled minds I come across.

Which part do I like the best?

“ More excuses are offered. People don't use their maps correctly! People expect too much when human error is always a factor. The NEWER maps will be much better than the older ones. Be patient......be patient.....

Somehow, only the GB is important, UNTIL there is ERROR…. And

THEN it is the “people’s” problem with being “impatient.”

That is at the heart of it (and sometimes, it IS hard to figure out what they do so “eloquently”… over and over, and in so many situations, it is hard to describe, right?

Attention from “error” is diverted..

NOW it is all about YOUR “patience,” YOUR “loyalty,” & our favorite brain stopper quote: “who are you going to go away to?”

& the one that irritates me the most "I am sooo glad I am part of an organization that is willing to change"

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Does anyone remember letter from GB "end is imminent" around 2009?

by cha ching in

my sister remembers, hearing at her congregation, a strongly worded letter from "the society" that hinted that "we may not be getting any more letters from the society, as the end is coming soon.".

she thinks it was around 2009, or after.. anyone remember this?.

as a result of this letter:.

cha ching

I nsanely

M alicious

M alintentedly

I njurious

N arcissisticly

E ver-changing

N ever to be challenged

T hreat

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Does anyone remember letter from GB "end is imminent" around 2009?

by cha ching in

my sister remembers, hearing at her congregation, a strongly worded letter from "the society" that hinted that "we may not be getting any more letters from the society, as the end is coming soon.".

she thinks it was around 2009, or after.. anyone remember this?.

as a result of this letter:.

cha ching

yep, the word "imminent" is a fave of theirs... over the centuries...

It must have been something in HER hall, it scared her to death!

The tribulation was "just around the corner...."

Someone DOES remember Ted Jaracz saying, "the end is so close I can taste it!"

Does anyone else?

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Does anyone remember letter from GB "end is imminent" around 2009?

by cha ching in

my sister remembers, hearing at her congregation, a strongly worded letter from "the society" that hinted that "we may not be getting any more letters from the society, as the end is coming soon.".

she thinks it was around 2009, or after.. anyone remember this?.

as a result of this letter:.

cha ching

thank you all.. still haven't found what she's looking for

llamallcool: I looked in the yearbooks I have... (CD 2006-2009) but I think I tossed by 2010.. ;-) I forgot about the yearbooks and the GB letters.. That would be a good place... but can't find 2010-2012

dropoffyourkeylee: haha... LOVE it! yep, it's always "imminent"

dazedbutnotconfused: 4-5 years ago? hmmm my sister is sure it was after they changed the "bookstudy" in private homes, to "bible study" to same night at service meeting.. That was so the elders could better keep track of us... "help us"

shopaholic: km school? now that's interesting, but she's sure she heard it at a 'service meeting' (she didn't get to go to km school)

thx

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Does anyone remember letter from GB "end is imminent" around 2009?

by cha ching in

my sister remembers, hearing at her congregation, a strongly worded letter from "the society" that hinted that "we may not be getting any more letters from the society, as the end is coming soon.".

she thinks it was around 2009, or after.. anyone remember this?.

as a result of this letter:.

cha ching

My sister remembers, hearing at HER congregation, a strongly worded letter from "the Society" that hinted that "we may not be getting any more letters from the Society, as the end is coming soon."

She thinks it was around 2009, or after.. anyone remember this?

As a result of this letter:

It caused a stir in her congregation, as one brother cried out, "Come Lord Jesus, come!", and one missionary brother thought he'd only live in his new house for one month before the end would come. Month after month, each Sunday meeting, they had a talk on Armaggedon and "the end." Some bible students were freaking out.

A brother totally made up a letter, as IF it came from the GB, he read it on a service meeting part.. that said:

"This is the last letter you may get from us, because the great tribulation is about to begin."

Adding, "How would you feel if you got a letter like that? Would you be good with God?"

Was this just one congregation going overboard? Or, did anyone else have an experience like this?

Does anyone remember the original letter from the Society?